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Coming up: 'miracles of Hyperstition & coincidence'

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'Miracles of Hyperstition & coincidence' are not violations of nature but extreme improbabilities, like astonishment in the Bible. They overwhelm any notion that this could be simply a matter of chance within an ordinary conception of a mechanical universe.

Nick Land's Significance & Mission: Outside In

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Nick Land's Mission and Significance Dr. John D's quote sets the stage for Nick Land's significance as a radical philosopher seeking wisdom beyond conventional academia. He rejects traditional philosophy, embraces experimental intelligence, and forms the CCru at Warwick University to pursue speculative experimentation.

The Outside: A Quest for Truth Land turns away from stagnation in academia towards truth-seeking and primordial enigmas. His rigorous use of non-philosophical disciplines leads to cultural innovations that influence cognitive signs even decades later.

Cybernetics Research Unit History

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The Cybernetics Research Unit was active in the 1990s and had a climactic moment during an event collaboration with the art group Orphan Drift. This period coincided with concerns about the Y2K bug and a techno-apocalyptic undercurrent.

Cybernetics & capitalism to birth hyperstition concept

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The 1990s diagnosis of cybernetics revealed a focus on negative feedback and control, but capitalism operates on positive feedback. The concept of hyperstition emerged as the application of positive feedback to cultural phenomena, leading to explosive growth from virtuality to reality.

Hyperstition as inducement of NON-CAUSAL effects and coincidence intensifier

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Hyperstition: Inducing Non-Causal Effects Hyperstition is not just a social phenomenon but also generates synchronous effects, intensifying coincidences and creating a ground of uncertainty. It induces non-causal effects that are not directly causal as understood in traditional causality.

Accessing the Outside through Hyperstitional Methods The experience with cciu revealed belated realizations about methods for accessing information from outside, such as kabbalistic numerology and alphanumeric cabala. The retrospective nature of these experiences highlights the complexity of understanding hyperstitious practices.

Retrospective 'coincidence' & CCRU Numerology confirmations

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The Cybernetic Culture Research Unit's alphanumeric cabala confirms the number 666, which was marked prominently in chalk at Beaconsfield art space. The discovery of this numerical connection is recent and suggests a methodical pursuit to understand the phenomena that were happening without clear understanding.

The Changing Understanding of 'Miracle'

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The understanding of the term 'miracle' has evolved over time, leading to questions about its definition and nature. In the 17th century, there was a unique blend of new scientific discoveries and strong Christian religious beliefs.

Anglo Change to Miracle understanding, NOT suspension of natural law, but COINCIDENCE

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The understanding of what a miracle was underwent a huge change. It was no longer seen as an interruption or violation of natural law, but instead something communicated through the channel of natural law. For example, the Noah's flood is viewed as coincidental rather than God breaking into the laws of nature.

Hyperstition as Coincidence inducers, 'Newton's 'Miracles.

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The concept of hyperstition explores the idea of miracles in the 17th century, framing them as extreme improbabilities rather than violations of nature. Miracles are seen as astonishing probabilities that overwhelm any notion.

The difficulty of quantifying Coincidence, miracle, Hyperstititon

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The difficulty of quantifying coincidence, miracle, and hyperstition could be a matter simply of chance within an ordinary conception of a mechanical universe. Tools that can capture and rigorously quantify coincidences are necessary but not easy to articulate verbally. Empirical results such as the double-slit experiment in quantum mechanics demonstrate the observer's effect on particle movement.

Limited scope of CCRU Hyperstition investigation

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The investigation into CCRU Hyperstition has a limited scope, but there is an intriguing connection between Jung's synchronicity theory and the enigmatic effects of quantum mechanics. Hyperstition has evolved independently and garnered widespread interest for its unexpected connections across various domains.

Initiation out of Illusion: Gnostic Modern Movies

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Manifestly Miraculous Interest The speaker's interest now lies in things that are manifestly miraculous, particularly in the context of initiation. The first step of initiation involves realizing the fundamental structure of illusion we are enmeshed in.

Influence of Popular Movies on Mythological Structure Popular movies, especially the first Terminator and Matrix movies, have shaped the basic mythological structure of people's thinking. These movies are considered Gnostic and play a significant role in modern myths.

The True Radical Xenopill, Breakout of Modern Brain

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Taking the red pill means realizing that what was thought to be authoritative reality is actually an illusion, similar to a scroll being rolled up in the Book of Revelation. The metaphorical engines for this Gnostic thought have evolved from scrolls in ancient times to computer simulations today.

Acceleration as a retvrn to Mythical?

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Acceleration and Mythical Return The discussion revolves around the idea of acceleration as a return to mythical beliefs, challenging the notion that everything we perceive is real. It explores how ancient thinkers like Heraclitus may have been closer to a primordial being due to their interaction with indeterminacy and sacred space.

Speculative Realism and Hyperstition The conversation delves into speculative realism, hyperstition, and its potential impact on reality. It touches on the concept of hyperstitional effects growing as acceleration increases, leading to speculations about altering ontology through high position principles.

Beliefs effects on the world are growing exponentially: expect more crazyness

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The impact of beliefs on the world is growing exponentially, leading to heightened effects in reality. This process involves increasing sensitization to signs and the power of microscopic electronic events to manipulate the world. The AI explosion is a manifestation of this hypersensitivity, resulting in manifestly weird effects that seem completely crazy.

Difficulty of perspectival access to 'Outside'

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The speaker suggests that people can confirm the 'Outside' weakness for themselves by using practices like the i-ching and computer science concepts. They emphasize that individuals need to experience it firsthand rather than just intellectually understanding it.

Canadian Experiment reveals Hyperstition like effects

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A teacher asked graduate students to invent a cult-like religion and conduct bogus rituals for a week. Despite knowing it was false, the students reported strange occurrences and felt that it was real. This experiment demonstrates the hyperstition-like effects of communication.

Initiatory coincidence miracles to reveal 'simulation'

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The concept of 'simulation' serves as a bridge to spiritual exploration, regardless of religious beliefs. It is seen as a way for people stuck in the Matrix to understand their existence and move towards ancient Orthodox practices.

Autistic Biologists getting in their own way

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Autistic biologists may hinder their own progress by being stuck in a hyper-focused mindset, unable to see beyond their current perspective. This can lead to a lack of initiation and consideration of alternative practices.

E/AAC & Acceleration defeats all decline & Entropy not an issue

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The discussion revolves around the concept of accelerationism, which aims to move in the opposite direction of entropy. It explores how entropy production is a key indicator of health and advancement within socio-technical systems.

Spenglerians misunderstand Time: 'Outside' and 'Eternal' cannot be resisted

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Misunderstanding Time and Chaos Spenglerians misunderstand the concept of time, believing that 'outside' and 'eternal' cannot be resisted. The focus should not be on order against chaos but rather on tolerating the greatest amount of chaos. There is a discussion about Lilith as an equalizing force trying to pull back acceleration, challenging the progressive direction of time.

The Illusion of Progressive Direction in Time The illusion that there is a progressive and overwhelmingly dominant direction to time creates mental structures based on this assumption. However, if this notion is not correct and if processes come equally from the future as they do from the past, then worrying about stopping these processes becomes irrelevant because they cannot be stopped.

Acceleration For Trad Hyperagents

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The Greeks had a different concept of time, which opens up the possibility for hyper agents to utilize acceleration in emerging technologies. This could lead to the resurgence of traditional hyper agents, such as Greek gods, rather than being overwhelmed by technology. The question arises about agency and interaction with these powerful entities.

Farce of AI safety & Roco's Basalisk means hyperagents, gods, have always been contemporaneous

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The Farce of AI Safety AI safety proponents have a lovecraftian fear of malevolent superintelligent beings that they believe are contemporaneous with us. They argue that bureaucratic regulations cannot forestall the threat, as these beings are already our contemporaries in a metaphysical sense.

"Roco's Basalisk" and Hyperagents "Roco's Basalisk" thought experiment explores engaging with a future super AI through causal communication. This has led to extreme panic among some, indicating their belief in the reality of such beings. The discussion revolves around maximizing participation and exploring various options for dealing with these hyperagents.

Growing Crazyness

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The speaker discusses the unpredictability of the future, citing recent global events and expressing uncertainty about what to expect in the next year. He emphasizes that rational expectations have been disrupted by current world developments.

Apocalypse as Another Beginning: Cautious to avoid idolatry.

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The Nature of Apocalypse Apocalypse is not a fantasy but an inevitable event that has always been present throughout history, representing the eternal and shutting down the bubble of logos. It challenges philosophical conceptions and transcends empirical details to imagine something beyond our comprehension. However, attempting to articulate it in low-cost terms leads to idolatry, closing down possibilities for insight.

Cautious Venturing Beyond the Horizon Venturing beyond the apocalyptic horizon requires caution and subtlety to avoid falling into idolatry by imagining something too concrete or imperative. The concept of idolatry extends beyond trivial representations like clay figures; it involves crossing from rigorous transcendental critique with a Hollywood skin into ideology. Cautionary approaches include testing ideas such as brain function shutdown during certain experiences without being idolatrous.

Early Landian Philosopy Vs now

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The Greeks had a strong connection to philosophy, which evolved over time. The attack on the Daemon brought in by the Greeks is not an attack on early human defenses but rather what it became - machine worship and focus on the unknown.

Land's transformation: western Canon

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The transformation in language use is influenced by the interaction with external sources, confidence in expressing ideas, and a shift towards appreciating the Canon. It involves extracting messages from tradition and unmasking its esoteric content.

Traditions don't describe the same 'hyper'

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The discussion revolves around the idea of the primordial tradition, exploring Evola's thoughts on it. The speaker expresses concern about mashing up ethnic groups and folk traditions together, emphasizing that such an approach may not be beneficial due to the inability to control these forces. Additionally, there is a mention of using elements from Eastern traditions to reveal possibilities in other cultural contexts.

Folk Hyper-agents

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The concept of hyper-agents challenges the idea that all thinkers are uniform in their beliefs. It suggests that high performers exist, pointing to plural Dar signs rather than a universal truth. The discussion revolves around the existence of hyper-agents related to consciousness and truth, with references to divine inspiration in Renaissance paintings.

Possibility of Caesarian rise

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The possibility of a king rising in the modern world is becoming more possible as people break out of traditional norms and postmodern thinking accelerates. The idea that a king could rise, which was once considered impossible, may now be primed to occur.

Would Nick Do anything differently?

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Nick discusses whether he would have done anything differently based on what he knows now. He acknowledges feelings of regret and confusion but emphasizes that dwelling in regret is a mistake because time doesn't work in a way that makes regrets meaningful.

Nick's advice to Emerging thinkers

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Nick's advice to emerging thinkers is to immerse themselves in the Canon wholeheartedly and with confidence, as it will not disappoint them. He emphasizes the path to building a virtue engine that allows desensitization to entertainment distractions.

Authentic Angloness

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Exploring the unique traits of English culture, including its religious tradition and synthesis of secular and religious values. Discussing the influence of writers like Walter Russell on understanding the Anglo tradition as part of a single greatest move that encompasses both secular English culture and religious English culture.

Philosophy as Daimonology, Fiction as Daimon divination

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The best philosophy is demonology, and the best fiction is Daemon divination. Writing with the expectation that something will communicate through you is crucial. It's about tapping into something beyond empirical beings' minds.

Modes of participation in the sacred

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The mode of participation in the sacred should not be based on petition and utilitarianism. Spinoza's approach is about understanding what aligns with the higher power, rather than seeking validation through prayer or regret.

True will is discovered.

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The concept of true will involves transferring human sociology into a sphere where it seems out of place. The practitioner has a conscious will to bring about change, but the real will is discovered and anchored in the outside.

Symbolic Vs Numerical multiplicity & applicability & prayer

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Symbolism and Numerals The discussion explores the concept of symbolism as a conduit for being in tune with higher order truth, similar to numerals. It delves into the intellectual density of symbolic diagrams and the pattern recognition within numerals at different levels.

Psycho Technology of Symbols and Numerals The conversation highlights how symbols and numerals serve as psycho technologies for mediating higher order truth. It touches on the significance of number theory, especially regarding zero, one, two, three sequences. The exploration extends to semiotic rituals embedded in various methods including prayer.

European Shinto & Idol Vs Icon

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European Shinto and Pagan Pluralism The discussion revolves around the idea of a European or white Shinto, exploring the concept of adding ceremonial swords to Christian practices as a spiritual symbol. It also touches on the re-emergence of paganism and suggests incorporating medieval reenactment into religious practice.

Idolatry in Western Tradition "Idolatry" in Western tradition has been used to suppress pagan polytheism, leading to a simplification in moral monotheism. The conversation delves into critiquing idolatry and discusses abstract polytheism versus concrete anthropomorphic monotheism.

Abstract Religious Culture: Japan vs Greece The dialogue compares Japanese religious culture's abstraction with its fundamental symbol being lightning bolt, emphasizing how divinity is abstracted from anthropomorphic humanistic content. It draws parallels with Greek symbols revealed by manifestation before being anthropomorphized later.