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RealTalk Ep.24 Ft. @ijayalani on Ghosts, Black magic, Exorcism & Paranormal Investigations

Intro

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In this chapter, we delve into the intriguing world of ghost fairs where people can buy, sell, and rent ghosts. These frauds have the ability to change their color, shape, and line. We introduce a paranormal investigator who aims to debunk superstitions related to ghosts.

When ijayalani used “Dare hai Gym kare hai!”

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"Dare hai Gym kare hai!" - When I received a text from ijayalani, it led to an unexpected adventure. In 2019, we went to Khand mountain in Teri Garhwal for a paranormal investigation. The villagers believed that fairies descend from the sky and dance for Goddess Durga at night. Excited and equipped with night vision cameras, we reached the top of the mountain only to be startled by news of a lion's presence.

Why ijayalni choose this field

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Curiosity and Initial Motivation Ijayalni explains that her interest in the paranormal field began during college. Initially, she was attracted to it because she thought it would impress girls and fulfill a sense of machoism. However, curiosity played a significant role as well.

"Ghosts" Caught on Machines 'Since 2013, I started properly investigating the paranormal by using machines like K2 meters. At first, when these devices detected activity or made sounds, I got scared thinking there were actual ghosts present.'

Evolution of Purpose "Initially seeking fame and attention like any young person does," Ijayalni

Experience of Mussoorie haunted location

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Haunted School in Lambi Dehar Mines In Mussoorie, there is a haunted school located in the Lambi Dehar Mines. The school was run by a principal who practiced black magic and sacrificed children for occult rituals. After the villagers discovered this, they killed the principal and closed down the school. When visiting this place alone at night, I started feeling uneasy and had strong suicidal thoughts.

"Negative Vibes" with Unexplained Phenomenon During my visit to the haunted location in Mussoorie, I experienced negative vibes that affected my emotions drastically. These feelings led me to contemplate suicide but suddenly changed when I left the building. Local historians confirmed suicides have occurred at this spot before as well.

ijayalani on Chhalawa

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Illusions have the ability to change their appearance, including twisting their feet in various positions. They are known for scaring people and can even attack men. There are different types of illusions found in different regions, such as Kaska who is believed to collect women's breasts and Panchha who takes the form of a fool at night.

jayalani on Bullet Baba

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"Bullet Baba" temples are a series of 20-25 temples in Rajasthan, filled with bullets. While I respect people's faith, I question the belief that these bullets possess special powers. It seems like an exaggeration and a means to profit from people's faith.

Sad reality behind myths

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The Sad Reality of Witch Hunting In a village near Ranchi, an awareness campaign was conducted against witch hunting. The villagers were resistant to change and refused to accept that women are not witches. Men in the village did not want to lose their power over women, who were often victims of violence and abuse. Despite efforts to educate them, the campaign faced violent opposition from the men in the village.

'Faith' vs 'Superstition' 'Faith' can bring peace if it does no harm, but 'superstitions' that cause harm should be challenged. Many people believe in superstitions without questioning their validity or considering how they affect others. It is important to distinguish between harmless beliefs and those that lead to violence or sacrifice.

When his team take steps back

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While exploring Lambi Dehar Mines for a documentary, my team and I encountered some unsettling experiences. As we ventured deeper into the mines, our walkie-talkies started making strange noises. One of our members got scared and ran away with the only source of light we had. We followed him but soon faced another terrifying encounter when a group of wild cows charged towards us.

Black Magic

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The Reality of Black Magic Black magic is a topic that many people have heard about and some claim to have experienced. However, there is no concrete evidence to prove its existence or effectiveness. Personal experiences vary greatly, with some attributing negative events to black magic while others dismiss it as coincidence or natural occurrences.

Hypnosis and Manipulation "Hypnosis" is another form of black magic that has gained popularity among young people seeking control over others. It promises the ability to make someone fall in love with you or do your bidding through manipulation techniques. However, these claims are often deceptive and can lead individuals down harmful paths.

Body Posessions

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The Phenomenon of Possession There are three types of possessions in India: exorcisms performed by temples, online ghost removal sessions, and ghost fairs. Ghost fairs involve buying, selling, and renting ghosts as well as physical abuse towards young girls. The government should address these harmful practices.

"Renting" a Ghost "Renting" a ghost at the ghost fair involves providing something valuable in exchange for assistance with personal matters such as finding someone or seeking revenge. However, it is likely a scam to extract money from people who believe deeply in supernatural powers.

Other country experiences of jayalani

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In other countries, there are people who believe in superstitions. However, there are also skeptical and rational organizations that try to debunk these beliefs. These organizations receive support from government agencies and NGOs to educate the public.

Best Paranormal Investigation of jayalani

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The Distressed Dentist A young dentist from Yamuna Nagar reached out to me in distress, claiming to see a woman floating around her. She had been experiencing this for the past 8 months and felt scared enough to consider ending her life. After learning about her traumatic childhood experiences and subsequent mental health issues like pareidolia and paracosm, I decided to help her.

"I Have Saved This Girl" "What have you achieved in life?" people ask me. Well, I saved a girl's life who was suffering from severe psychological trauma caused by molestation during childhood. Through extensive conversations with both the girl and her family, I managed to convince them of the importance of seeking professional help. Now she is doing well and even getting married soon.

Outro

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The podcast was enjoyable and will continue in the future. The topic discussed can be explored further in season 2. The speaker's book will be released this year, with another one coming next year. They plan to visit Estonia and Jamaica as major destinations for their upcoming projects.